The power of the blade you receive suggests he's dead, but he talks about solving the fate of the Dwemer, so maybe he's been sent to the dimension they were sent to? For the shade's stats, see its individual page. Serana was wrong. But without the proper training, proper understanding, proper tools and proper energy sources, the end results were unpredictable. The soul gem is a considerably weaker power source then the heart of lorkhan. If I were a god I would've killed him simply for his impetuousness. He disappears into the soul gem, right? A shade, a shadow of what was once Arniel Gane. His goal is to use it in an experiment to … Arniel's Shade is a ghost of the College of Winterhold mage Arniel Gane, who was destroyed or possibly transported to another plane at the conclusion of the quest " Arniel's Endeavor." Effects . Pick 'em up anywhere and bring them back. Whatever happened to him didn't happen to the Dwemer. Arniel Gane didn't share a telepathic link with anyone or anything so only he was removed from existence. His soul is bound to us, rather than being recycled in the Dreamsleeve or given to Herma Mora. As in, he was teleported to that realm of the void which has previously been named plot device. Arniel goes to Soul Cairn, considering it involves a Soul Gem. 1- Arniel turned a dragon into an ash pile, and i got no soul because of that. It was laughably inaccurate. Therefore, you may prefer to instead keep the rings with their +20 have a fist on the other hand) It then worked for me. Arniel's Endeavor Part I. Without a Numidium or other target, much less the proper Tonal Architecture, he had no hope of recreating the Dwemeri Extinction. He's suggested that there may be more I can help with in the future. Summoner, Atromancy and Necromancy have no effect. Arniel threw a lit match in a can of gasoline and leaned in real close to see what was going to happen. The Dwemer disappeared, yet so did Arniel Gane. Arniel used a broken tool on a soulgem. Where did he go? At any point after finding the Ancient Amulet, you can return to Arniel Gane and give him any Enchanted Rings that you have found. No dialogue options come up or anything. I suspect Bethesda want to leave the exact reasons for Dwemer Disappearance (and thus Arniel's disappearance) a mystery, because it's just that, a fantastic mystery. Two tools, of such immense and catastrophic power that they require a third, protective one to even be touched, designed by an ancient genius to manipulate the heart of a dead god which anchors the spatial foundations of reality, through a fusion of science, magic and acoustics that no living mortal can rightfully claim to comprehend. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Anyone have any idea what happened to him? When the Dwemer disappeared, it was on account of Kagrenac using all three tools on the heart. Summon Arniel's Shade is a Conjuration spell that summons the Shade of Arniel Gane to aid you in combat. I believe that what Arniel recreated was a Dwemer secret method used to power their creations. What do I have to do to make him take the cogs? His body was annihilated and he had his soul bound to the LDB since he's basically a living soul gem. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Arniel Gane asks you first to find 10 Dwarven (Dwemer) cogs. Someone named Arniel Gane even tried to recreate the disappearance using Kagrenac's tools, and he himself disappeared. Perhaps this lends credence to why only Arniel Gane was sundered from his body and tied to the LDB, and not all Bretons. Allow me a moment to just describe Sunder and Keening. Isn't the Dragonborn a part of Akatosh, like the rest of the dragons? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Filled soul gems can be found in dwemer automatons. I'm not sure how much of him is even there. I tried dropping them on the ground infront of him and nothing happened still. Thanks for your in depth reply. level 2 What happened to him? Basically, he's dead. Whenever I talk to him he just says I DONT WANNA LOSE MY REASERCH WE GOTTA SAVE THE COLLEGE. While its never explicitly revealed/confirmed what exactly happened, they disappeared after Kagrenac used his tools on the Heart of Lorkhan. I usually wouldn't care but it will not leave my quest diary. He was missing 2 items, one was barely working, he was using a warped soul gem, he lacks the Dwemer genius and tonal architecture knowledge. The warped soul gem that was struck was his medium. With Numidium lacking and the ritual only a recreation (no sunder, no actual heart, etc. Objective 10: Deliver ten cogs to Arniel Gane. The quest marker is right on his head too. Kagrenac turned the ignition on a prototype car with some unusual additions and got an unexpected result. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Not all the dwemer are dead though, there is that one that has corpus and is still "alive". Until we get an official response, who knows? In there you can see many ash piles which suggests that their bodies remained where they were (though turned to ash). This lends credence to why only Arniel Gane was sundered from his body and tied to the LDB, and not all Bretons. At any rate, everyone else seems to have it mostly covered - Arniel partially succeeded in replicating the Dwemer removal. That it would go catastrophically wrong was the second most likely outcome - the most likely being that nothing would happen. So the theory goes that when Arniel hit the thing with the other thing, his soul leapt to the closest divine thing, which happened to be The Last Dragonborn, being a shard of Aka (and also a Shezzarine in some theories). he hasn't taken the cogs. Or maybe he cut himself out of the dream. He's suggested that there may be more I can help with in the future. Arniel is located in the first room on the right on the second floor of the Hall of Attainment. He didn't use Wraithguard to keep him safe from Keening, and the Warped Soul Gem is not Heart of Lorkhan. I explained why a long time ago, so if you would just let me find a quote... Arniel Gane was hopelessly out of his depth. A subreddit dedicated to the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Objective 10: Deliver ten cogs to Arniel Gane. Keening, Sunder and Wraithguard are the three legendary tools created to control the Heart of Lorkhan. The surprising thing is that anything happened at all. Arniel not having anyone to link to probably has no effect on whether what happened to him is different from the dwemer or not. Follow the walkways to the other side. I'll read over it and get back to u when more time I have. 200: Finishes quest: I've given Arniel Gane the Dwarven cogs he asked for, and he was quite grateful. As I was playing a bit of Skyrim, I was taking part in a bit of an interesting quest. He knew exactly WHAT the dwemer did, just didn't understand the (meta)physics behind the whole process. Praise Reman and all his little woodland creatures! This may not have a real answer, but any reasonable speculation would be appreciated. His body was destroyed and his soul cast loose. So after Arniel Gane disappears at the end of the Arniel's endeavor quest, what happens to him? and why they disappeared. Even the other convectors won't heat up now. Part 2 (MGRArniel02) 10: Arniel has asked for more help with his project, though this time the request is very different. Still, I suppose you could say that Arniel cut himself out of the Dragonborn's dragon break. They found piles of ash next to weapons, in Beds, and everywhere a dwemer would have been standing in the ruins of Bamz-Amschend in Mournhold. Summon Arniel's Shade, for 60 secs; Perks . I think people assume WAY too much about the Dwemer and what/how they did it. The Nerevarine reports this back to the Archmage of the Mages Guild where nobody does anything useful with that info until Skyrim, when Arniel Gane attempts and presumably fails to replicate Kagrenac's actions with a depowered Keening. Discombobulated? It results with Arniel becoming a ghost himself, but I believe that he somewhat succeeded in his experiment. We basically know the outcome, and the reason, but the methodology (metaphysically) is so speculative. Arniel Gane didn't share a telepathic link with anyone or anything so only he was removed from existence. The Dwarves, like Arniel Gane, are trapped in the place that exists between Oblivion/Aetheruis and Nirn. Honestly, Arniel Gane disappeared because that's what happened to the Dwemer so … ooohhh… mystery. I've just reached the end of his quest. So I figured that since the deeper mysteries of Aetherius are not my area of expertise, and probably my weakness in the Lore, I'd reach out to my fellow scholars and see if they could help me with their opinions. All the Dwemer died in that exact moment with no traces to be found as well, and they -all- died (even those not trying to syphon the heart of Lorkhan) because they are telepathically linked. Gane used only one. ), Arniel succeeded in binding himself to the nearest divine being - the Dragonborn. He is a Breton mage, a member of the College of Winterhold who leads an expedition to the tomb of Saarthal. Notes . Basically, he recreated the Dwemer Dissapearance, sadly with the 'malfunction' (which I assume to be a fail safe designed to stop people ascending to god hood like the Tribunal) which pretty much killed him. They were trying to build there own mechanical God, by doing so they accidentally sent themselves to a different dimension. Was he Transmogrified? He is a ghost. I never thought so. 200: I've given Arniel Gane the Dwarven cogs he asked for, and he was quite grateful. Arniel Gane had one of these tools, which, given that he didn't die by simply holding it without Wraithguard, was clearly broken. /r/teslore is a subreddit dedicated to the discussion and creation of the vast lore of The Elder Scrolls. 4- The telepathic link appears to hold no impact on the disappearance beyond Kargenac using the link to take all dwemer with him. Unless their thralls look like Wrathmen (? If you do "Arniel's Endeavor" it's a College of Winterhold side quest in Skyrim, Bethesda shows you what happened to the dwarves. Being a breton - Arniel had the mixed blood of Men and Mer. He leads an excavation at the tomb of Saarthal and will hope to experiment with Kagrenac's tools, the latter of which he is highly secretive of. Doesn't that mean that he is bound to Akatosh as well? Dead. 3- In Tribunal there is a dwemer ruin that has been untouched for millennia. Arniel Gane, who is researching what happened to the Dwemer, had Keening brought to Skyrim during the quest Arniel's Endeavor. So what happened to the Dwemer? His midium. The Dragonborn will witness this unexpected occurrence, when given the spell to summon the apparition, which is called Summon Arniel's Shade. They are trapped in an area very similar to what the Catholic call "Purgatory" and they lost their physical form. Arniel Gane attempted this interaction in smaller scale, and the result was the same, but instead of binding his soul to the disappeared Numidium his soul became bound to the nearest source of power, aka the Dragonborn, and that's why his shade can be cast to help the LDB in their deeds. Arniel Gane's mission bug in Skyrim PS3?? Arniel's understanding was lacking. Hmm. Transmogrification is the total change of form, generally used to denote transformation from human to non-human, typically animal but generally "grotesque". Really? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If he doesn't, there are some known bugs with the scene: ), I won't assume a necromancer works the IMs. To answer what happened with the Dwemer you need a why, not just a what. The first time Arniel Gane ventures outside the College is when Tolfdir suggests that you and the other apprentices help out with the excavation of Saarthal, one of the oldest ruins in Skyrim.At that point Arniel will be teleported to a spot inside the excavation site. I don't know what either of those words mean, but they seemed to fit. Like really sharp deep. Once you have entered, ask Tolfdir what you can do to help and he will say: "Ah, yes. Just a few details/bug reports. Also upgrades Arniel\\'s abilities. For The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim on the PlayStation 3, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Arniel Gane has stolen Wuuthrad! Arniel's goal is to recreate the event that caused the Dwemer to disappear. But when I cast the flame spell on the second convector (more than 10 seconds) nothing happened. Hmm, interesting, as well as somewhat sinister. That's why you can summon his shade, because it is bound to you the same way the Dwemer are bound to the Numidium. If summoned second, it will replace the first summon. Hmm. Not his soul, not his mind and not his spirit. At all. Kagrenac uses three tools on the heart. Keening cuts up the divine into pieces that are sundered from one another. I think of it exactly like the Numidium's activation by the dwemer, but on a significantly reduced scale. Twin Souls only works if Arniel's Shade is summoned first. Anyway, I tried fast traveling a few times, walking in and out of inns and cities and I also restarted my console. Both disappeared. Go find and speak to Arniel Gane, who will ask for help with a special project of his. It is likely that this... 'impurity' rendered him a 'unique' race, relative to that of the Dwemer's genetic homogeneity. Since we barely know what the Heart of Lorkhan is, we can't draw too many conclusions about Keening. 2- Not all dwemer are gone, Yagram still remains as he was in another realm at the time and not affected by it. He should immediately use the dagger for some magic and he will "explode," dropping the dagger on the floor. Arniel used a broken tool on a soulgem. Press J to jump to the feed. Arniel's Endeavor is an optional quest from the College of Winterhold. He appears to have succeeded in unmaking himself and, rather than loosing his spirit to Oblivion, Aetherius or any other plane, he appears to have partially bound it to the Dragonborn. Kagrenac uses three tools on the heart. Are there any other references hinting that Keening was broken? Only souls you sacrifice to the Ideal Masters go there. If I remember right, he was experimenting with Keening, trying to figure out what happened when Kagrenac used the tools on the Heart(?) I brought 10 dwemer cogs to Arniel Gane in my inventory. Find Arniel Gane [edit | edit source] Head through the doorway that is directly in front and follow the long winding corridor to another large cavern. So, when a sub gradient of a divine comes into being that's a big deal right? The Gem duplicated in the second convector, leave one in the convector and go to the third convector (even though it says Return the gem to Arniel, remember you've only used two.) Also, at the end of that quest I think he becomes summonable, right? Arniel Gane and his "endeavors" are another example of this. ". I'm not sure if he's a familiar that can be pulled from his respective afterlife, a psychic imprint the LDB can call that isn't really Gane, or if Gane literally lives inside of the LDB and he pushes him out when he's summoned. Once you have entered, ask Tolfdir what you can do to help and he will say: "Ah, yes. He was Soul Trapped, but Bethesda was too lazy to add him in the Soul Cairn. Arniel Gane's experiment in Skyrim was a half-assed attempt at recreating what Tiber Septim did to activate Numidium, not what Kagrenac did with the Heart of Lorkhan. He did something pretty similar to what the Dwemer did. The Fate of Arniel Gane » Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:05 pm . Part 2 (MGRArniel02) 10: Arniel has asked for more help with his project, though this time the request is very different. At the very least, the black soul gems you can create in Cyrodiil probably give their souls to the God of Worms since it's his magic and celestial event that lets you create them. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Press J to jump to the feed. The first time Arniel Gane ventures outside the College is when Tolfdir suggests that you and the other apprentices help out with the excavation of Saarthal, one of the oldest ruins in Skyrim.At that point Arniel will be teleported to a spot inside the excavation site. I thought it wasn't necessarily the DB who completes the side quests, though? Keening was not developed specifically to bind a soul to Numidium - well maybe it was - but its properly described purpose was to manipulate the Heart of Lorkhan with the other tools. I'm Blackfyre and I'd like to talk about...Arniel Gane. Kagrenac turned the ignition on a prototype car with some unusual additions and got an unexpected result. Is Dovahkiin divine? Wacking a soulgem with Keening and then...The ending of it was a bit of a conundrum, eh? Arniel's Endeavor. 2- He is kinda OP, the ice knockback effect permastunned a dragon (the same dragon he turned into an ash pile). To leave it as a matter of Keening as this soul-binding thing without further implication is not going to cut it. At the second pillar you will reach an apparent dead end, but the ramp down is on the right hand side, hidden in darkness if your settings are too dark. Ensure Arniel's spell is the only spell equipped (i.e. Arniel threw a lit match in a can of gasoline and leaned in real close to see what was going to happen. All the Dwemer died in that exact moment with no traces to be found as well, and they -all- died (even those not trying to syphon the heart of Lorkhan) because they are telepathically linked. 1- We don't know for sure if the dwemer died or not, they could have ascended to godhood, been warped to another realm, who knows? You get the dagger on the last part of quest Arniel's Endeavor but you have to deliver it to Arniel Gane at the end of a quest. is he just killed or is he put in contact with the Dwemer? That tells us that his experiment didn't quite go how the original did. He takes all the rings from you, but he is more concerned with the mess you have made than with the new artifacts, and does not give you any reward (not even a boost to his disposition). It is not, by any means whatsoever, an accurate recreation of the Dwemer's experiments with the HoL. This mod replaces the Conjur Spell Summon Arniel Shade, and moves it into the powers section. That's why we can now summon his ghost. I say partially as he doesn't really seem to have much intelligence after the fact. I personally think Keening is exactly what it is: a cutter that cuts deep. Arniel Gane is a non playable character that appears in the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. If you do the quest for Arniel Gane at the College of Winterhold he will help you explain it better. Perhaps his soul was bound to the Dragonborn, but that just means that his 'soulskin' remains in the dream, whereas he is departed. Asks you first to find 10 Dwarven ( Dwemer ) cogs on account of kagrenac using all three tools the... Numidium lacking and the ritual only a recreation ( no Sunder, no actual Heart, etc being!, yet so did Arniel Gane, are trapped in the Elder Scrolls and Nirn activation by the did... 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